Nutrient assimilation: Why switch from a vegetarian or vegan diet to an omnivorous diet rich in animal products?

My experience as an ex-Vegan who became a Carnivore and then an Omnivore with a dominant animal component

SLIM: And here, to add my little touch of personal experience, now, I have a diet based mainly on animal products and we can say 98% carnivore , but before that, I was vegan for two years.

Same as you, I'm a Praxis guy!

JEREMY: Welcome to the club!

SLIM: What's great about podcasting is being able to feature guests who read, study, research, and inform themselves.

And who are also not afraid of having two contradictory ideas in their head at the same time and who say to themselves that to form their own opinion, they are going to test it!

So for my part, I tested it and before that, I was also vegetarian for a year , sprinkled everything with intermittent and prolonged fasting ,

And other things, during periods when I was competing, during periods when I was not competing...

I had different phases and as you know with food, there are so many factors that come into play like emotions, the external environment, sleep, stress...

But in any case, from the point of view of the physical reactions that I have been able to observe, it is that since I stopped eating a diet very heavy in vegetables, without animal products, p

By switching to a diet consisting almost entirely of animal products, I no longer have any bloating , absolutely zero!

And my saddles have never been of such beautiful quality as now!

Whereas before, I went to the toilet a lot and it was always very soft and black, a very black black let's say, where you say to yourself: "That's weird!"

Whereas now, it's once a day, clean, perfect!

In any case, to perhaps give people some tools, I simply recommend: “Look at yourself in fact!”

It's nice to have all these influences, the books, my food podcasts, YouTube videos and friends too...

I have a lot of friends that I have influenced, despite myself, because in fact they saw me and said:

“Oh, the guy is vegan, we’re going to try veganism…”

But wait!

I do weightlifting, combat sports, gymnastics, I have a movement practice, lots of things, I do this, this and that, we don't eat the same, we don't have the same body...

In short, the best scientist is yourself , so look at your body!

If you're bloated all the time, it's not normal, no matter what your diet is, meaning even if you have an omnivorous diet and you're bloated all the time, look what's happening...

What is bioavailability? Why is it important for getting healthy?

And there, precisely, you were talking about anatomy, that anatomically, we are not designed for fermentation and I love the examples you gave!

Are there other points that support the relationship between the human animal and the environment when it assimilates plants, compared to animal products?

JEREMY: We can also talk about bioavailability .

Bioavailability of micronutrients

As I told you, in animal products, there are fifty times more micronutrients than in vegetables , so already, quantitatively, it's night and day!

Even if you want, you want, you wish to eat only plants and obtain your vitamins and minerals in this way,

You should know that vitamins and minerals are locked in the cellulose of the vegetable.

And that's funny, because yesterday I made a video on cooking, following a study that was carried out and which shows that cooking vegetables increases the bioavailability of certain vitamins ,

That is to say, when you cook your carrot, you can, for example, absorb more beta-carotene than if you haven't cooked it!

We will take another vegetable:

For example, when you cook broccoli, you will also destroy some of the vitamin C, so the reality is that it's not all black or white!

In the world of naturopathy, you will find a movement called “raw foodism” , the act of eating everything “raw”.

SLIM: Ah, I tried!

I've done raw food, vegetarian food, and vegan food, and the only one I haven't tried yet is frugivore food, but maybe we'll come back to that later in the conversation...

JEREMY: I don't recommend fruitarianism...

If you don't want to become a green bean, don't try! Or you could walk in Karl Lagerfeld's fashion shows, but in my opinion, that's not desirable!

In this raw food environment, you are told:

“Ah, you have to eat everything raw, so as to preserve as many micronutrients as possible!”

But, this is entirely false…

Some vegetables, when you cook them, you absorb more vitamins and other vegetables, when you cook them, you absorb less!

It depends on the type of cooking, the type of vegetables and the vitamin, so it's complex.

It's much more complex than this simple Manichean vision of: "Raw is good and cooked is not good!"

All this to say that vitamins are locked in vegetables, in cellulose, in fibers and are not accessible , they must be digested, that is to say, this wall must be broken down!

Which means that when you eat a vegetable and you see that it contains so many vitamins, so many minerals..., you will ultimately NEVER have access to everything !

Or it depends on your digestive system, your age, your abilities, your physical activity, it depends on a whole bunch of parameters!

Bioavailability of amino acids

Then, this bioavailability also translates to amino acids.

There is also a scientific tool that is used by the FAO and the WHO, which I do not necessarily hold dear but which has been developed and which is called the PDCAAS (Protein Digestibility Corrected Amino Acid Score),

Or SCCD (Corrected Chemical Digestibility Score) in French.

In short, it is a chemical score, a score that will evaluate the digestibility of the protein source.

A score which will already evaluate the amino acid composition, which will check whether all the amino acids essential for the proper functioning of the body are present ,

And the score will also take into account whether the body is able to assimilate these amino acids!

So don't ask me how they did it because they surely didn't open the stomach of an individual to check what he targeted or not, this test is carried out with chemical mixtures which simulate digestion,

So it's a tool that remains open to criticism, but that's not the problem...

This tool, if you look at it, clearly shows that animal protein sources are hyper bioavailable!

For example, the egg is hyper bioavailable, you absorb almost everything ,

Whereas if you take the example of gluten which is a protein, it's a disaster because the score is 04, that is to say that you only absorb 40% of the protein!

Therefore, when you see your wheat (and soy) plant-based steak with 20 grams of protein, you are not absorbing the 20 grams of protein, you are only absorbing 40% of those 20 grams of protein.

The environmental and natural view of the life cycle

Moreover, when you look at it from a slightly more environmental, natural and almost philosophical point of view, you tell yourself that the animal ate the plant before you,

That he's already done the work of absorbing the vitamins and minerals inside him and what you're doing is coming and stealing them, so to speak!

“I’m coming to steal his vitamins and minerals!”

And that's what nature is all about!

Species eat each other and even herbivores eat insects, snails, earthworms, so we all eat each other and there is a logic in that!

SLIM: It's funny what you're talking about, because it's a theme that comes up quite often, but I like the way you say it because it's a bit raw!

We eat each other, but it's true that in the end, the source of energy is an energy which itself has drawn its source from other things!

It's a chain, it's cyclical!

Thank you for your attention, my friend.

Nomad Slim
Founder of MOUVERS